Donnie McClurkin

[msbeautiful]

[princessdee]

Ms.Beau...As I mentioned before,I listen to all of Pastor McClurkin's radio shows and he relates to all his guests in pretty much the same way.

I cannot recall any show where he was behaving/sounding like a gay man
towards his guest.....I think since RXW was so offended by the show she listened to,she should let us know who the guest was,so that others who listened to the show can judge for themselves.

[msbeautiful]

[RXW]

In all honesty I can't remember which one of the shows it was. It was recent and that's about all I can give you on that one. The guest was a male person who I believe was on the music writing side of things.

As to whether I'm being harsh or not I don't think so. I didn't purposely listen to the show "looking" for or even thinking about anything in particular. I came across the show and decided to listen that day. I just felt like a bath was in order after listening to the first few minutes of his introduction. It had nothing to do with cordiality or anything like that. There was just something in his voice.....

If you had researched enough you would know I stand on the truth and it really doesn't matter whether I'm the majority or the minority. I've been both on this board.....LOL And you can be sure I am not the only one......

Now in this instance you really should leave it to others as you're sold on him and if he was dripping wrong you would probably never admit it assuming you saw it.

Just so you know, I am not sold on him nor am I against him.

[princessdee]

[msbeautiful]

POSTED: MARCH 26, 2009

Donnie McClurkin: 'I Get So Mad at These Preachers!'

In November 2007, the Senate Finance Committee ordered ten leaders of church-based ministries to hand over their financial records by December 6, 2007, for an investigation it was launching. Many argue these renowned ministers' lavish lifestyles and prosperity teachings made them prime targets. Grammy-winning gospel great Donnie McClurkin, who also serves as pastor of the Perfecting Faith Church in Long Island, New York, shares his thoughts on the role of today's Black churches and its pastors in this dwindling economy.

As pastors, we have to link arms and have bipartisanships. The [Black] church has always been the face of the community. Now we have to take on the responsibility of becoming true servants to the people from all walks of life. I get so mad when I see these pimpin' preachers driving Rolls-Royces, Bentleys, flying around in their private jets, and making it seem like prosperity and money is the way of God when 90 percent of your congregation is on Section 8 or can't figure out how they are going to keep their lights on or feed their kids. I'm big on perception, and what would it look like for me to live so lavishly if the people in my church are struggling?

I've done great in gospel music, and only a few of us have accomplished what I have, and guess what? I live in the ‘hood, not some place on the outskirts of the ‘hood. There ain't no gate around my house; I have a white fence because the people I pastor live in that community. I have one vehicle and it's not a Mercedes, it's a Lincoln Navigator. I don't receive a dime—not an Abraham Lincoln copper coin—and haven't for the last seven-and-a-half years because I'm okay.

I've even had members ask me why I choose to live in the same neighborhood, and it's because I have to be able to relate. Do you think if Jesus was here on earth he'd be spending all his time in the church? No, he'd be out with the people who need him the most on the streets. People tell me how they want their pastor to be prosperous and I tell them I want the people to be prosperous. I've realized that just because you can go out and do something it doesn't mean it's the best thing to do.

If I wanted to buy a Phantom or Bentley I could and not hurt my pockets, but I'm okay with what I have. I can sing and work and I let all that money go back into the church so we can buy the delicatessen on the corner, or the house next door to make it state-of-the-art low-income housing. We've trained our people to put their leaders on pedestals, and some people want to live vicariously through their pastor and say, "My pastor has this and he's on television and so on," but then what do you have? How have you prospered and grown? So when I hear other pastors say, "My people take care of me," I'm thinking, But you're supposed to be taking care of the people. I just don't get it.

I don't have a church, but I do have a church that I pastor. I can't name something the Donnie McClurkin Temple because the people do not belong to me and if they did that would mean I have slaves. I am simply a vessel to deliver God's word. At the end of the day, it's God's church, not mine.

Check out Donnie McClurkin's latest album, "We All Are One," in stores now.

The views and opinions expressed are those of Donnie McClurkin and not ESSENCE.com's or ESSENCE magazine's.
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James 4:
7Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Flee means to disappear quickly. In MANY cases, the devil does not “flee” from us because we do not “resist” the devil!

[RXW]

First I didn't make any allegations. I know exactly the way it came off sounding and you can do what you will with that. Sometimes all you need is discernment. Now that's a novel idea isn't it?

And did I mention soliciting? Absolutely did not.... So where would that idea come from? You maybe?

[RXW]

Good article MS but I'll step out and take a chance on this one. I am willing to believe Princess will completely miss what you were trying to convey.... If you lived close would could share a sweet potato pie on this one....SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[msbeautiful]

Hmmmm……you know I LOVE me some sweet potato pie! You cook it, I might have to come visit!

I am happy to hear that Donnie has spoken out as we need more of that as well as action to back up those words from the pulpit.

What is sad is that the man had to put up a fence to keep out his members. I am not surprised at all because I had a minister at my church that lost his wife to cancer. While his wife was fighting for her life, women were staking their claim. Nothing I am about to say is exaggerated as all of it is the truth. The minister is a medical doctor so you know that raised the value per se of the minister. The women were so bad that people had to stay at his house around the clock just to run away the women. People had to take the calls and guard the door. People were dropping by leaving whatever foods they thought would get ahead of the next female. You name it they were trying and all of this while the lady was fighting for her life. It was so bad that after his wife died he went to another state for about three months to worship at his dad’s church. The first time he came back to church after his wife died left me speechless. After service was over, I went to greet him and I am a hugger as I rather hug you than to shake your hand. As I was extended my arms up, he caught my hand and he had fear written all over his face. That startled me because I was not trying to hurt him and before I knew it, women from I do not know where almost ran me over trying to get to him. He was still holding my hand for dear life and women were tossing me around telling me to move because I already got my husband and they are trying to get them one. It was crazy and I am thankful that I did not get whip lash! He finally made his way through the crowd of women and led me out of the church still grasping my hand. He was shaking and as we walked towards our vehicle and my husband, women were still running after him while I was in shock. He thanked me for helping him and gave me my hug told my husband thanks for sharing me.

I said that to say, if that minister got all of that, I can only imagine what Donnie is receiving. That is shameful especially from the church!

What Donnie said is not any different than what we have been preaching since almost as long as the City was created. However, we have been called everything except a child of God so I want to know if those same individuals will attack Donnie the same way that we were attacked. If I were a betting woman, I would bet the farm and say NO! You see, if one feels that what we said is wrong, then it is wrong if Donnie said it but church folk is about personality! It is not about the message per se but the personality behind the message. As Donnie said and we have preached, church folk is about putting folk on a pedestal which in many cases raises them higher than God. What we and Donnie said is correct but it is the receiver that want to protect the ills of the pastors.

Now, I hope this means that Donnie is no longer hanging out, going to the party, preaching at their church etc with the ones that he has described because that would be hypocrisy. We shall see!

Glad he spoke out and I hope he is backing that up with his actions.
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James 4:
7Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Flee means to disappear quickly. In MANY cases, the devil does not “flee” from us because we do not “resist” the devil!

[RXW]

I agree as well. What sometimes is missed is that although you are delivered, that does not mean the enemy went somewhere and died. I wish that were true.... So it is wise to guard your soul especially when you speak out against the devil's ploy. What I heard I heard and that's where I'll leave that. That doesn't keep me from praying for him or anything like that.
I'll also say this. I saw first hand a preacher who could preach strongly about sin and the truth of how God views it etc and was the chief sinner in the church. It was just plain sad...... the man did some of everything under the sun and his choice picks were those in the church..... He ruined many souls.... He just about destroyed that house....... So needless to say, I keep my eyes open, not looking for the worst but not to be caught unawares either. For Pastor McClurkin's sake he should be watchful......

[msbeautiful]